{"id":4217,"date":"2022-11-04T21:02:47","date_gmt":"2022-11-04T21:02:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/challengeseconomiques.com\/?p=4217"},"modified":"2022-11-04T21:04:53","modified_gmt":"2022-11-04T21:04:53","slug":"marc-teyssier-dorfeuil-president-de-compublics-le-ppp-peut-etre-un-accelerateur-de-croissance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/challengeseconomiques.com\/?p=4217","title":{"rendered":"Marc Teyssier D\u2019Orfeuil, Pr\u00e9sident de compublics \u00ab Le PPP peut \u00eatre un acc\u00e9l\u00e9rateur de croissance \u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Grand sp\u00e9cialiste des PPP, Marc Teyssier D\u2019Orfeuil est le Pr\u00e9sident de COMPUBLICS en&nbsp; France. Challenges \u00e9conomiques s\u2019est entretenu avec lui, \u00e0 l\u2019issue du panel&nbsp;sur \u00ab&nbsp;Infrastructures, T\u00e9l\u00e9coms et PPP : Les gisements de relance et de (re) croissance ?&nbsp;\u00bb auquel il a pris part, \u00e0 la 14<sup>\u00e8me<\/sup> \u00e9dition des Medays, de Tanger, au Maroc. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Est-ce que le mod\u00e8le partenariat public priv\u00e9 peut aider l\u2019Afrique \u00e0 se d\u00e9velopper&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ce n\u2019est pas un mod\u00e8le unique, il y a d\u2019autres sujets. Mais tr\u00e8s clairement, dans les sujets \u00e9nerg\u00e9tiques, dans les sujets de mobilit\u00e9, le PPP peut \u00eatre un acc\u00e9l\u00e9rateur de croissance. Parce que simplement, des investisseurs verront l\u2019int\u00e9r\u00eat de pouvoir aider des infrastructures \u00e0 se d\u00e9velopper plus rapidement d\u00e8s lors &nbsp;qu\u2019elles seraient amorties sur un certain nombre d\u2019ann\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Est-ce qu\u2019il y a lieu avec ce mod\u00e8le PPP de pr\u00e9parer des lois adapt\u00e9es afin de permettre au priv\u00e9 national de comp\u00eatir&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ce qui est &nbsp;extr\u00eamement int\u00e9ressant dans l\u2019intervention de Abdoulaye Ly (Directeur ex\u00e9cutif du club des investisseurs du S\u00e9n\u00e9gal), c\u2019\u00e9tait de montrer que la derni\u00e8re loi PPP qui avait mis un plafond notamment sur les offres spontan\u00e9es extr\u00eamement \u00e9lev\u00e9 a fait que la loi n\u2019a pas march\u00e9. Vous savez pour moi qui suis par ailleurs lobbyiste en France, la loi est une mati\u00e8re vivante. Il faut la faire \u00e9voluer. Si on voit que cela ne fonctionne pas, on reprend \u00e0 z\u00e9ro pour essayer de voir comment avoir une loi plus adapt\u00e9e. Parce que &nbsp;bien s\u00fbr, il faut un cadre juridique stable, un cadre juridique qui permet de trouver l\u2019\u00e9quilibre entre le public et le prive, les int\u00e9r\u00eats des deux parties. Mais aujourd\u2019hui, je pense qu\u2019avec l\u2019\u00e9volution l\u00e9gislative que vous avez connu au S\u00e9n\u00e9gal, en 2021, vous avez tous les outils pour pouvoir red\u00e9marrer les PPP , que ce soit dans les infrastructures , bien s\u00fbr \u00e9nerg\u00e9tiques, de mobilit\u00e9, de transport qui sont tr\u00e8s souvent capitalistiques. Mais je l\u2019esp\u00e9r\u00e9 aussi commencer \u00e0 envisager des PPP plut\u00f4t sociaux.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Comment analysez-vous la concurrence entre les entreprises dites nationales et consid\u00e9r\u00e9es comme telle du point de vue de la loi mais appartenant \u00e0 un \u00e9tranger et les entreprises appartenant effectivement \u00e0 des nationaux&nbsp;dans le cadre des projets PPP&nbsp;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>D\u2019abord, on est dans des march\u00e9s qui sont \u00e0 priori ouverts. Mais tr\u00e8s clairement, il faut dire que quand on est dans un PPP, on est dans un march\u00e9 public. L\u2019acceptabilit\u00e9 de la construction quelle qu\u2019elle soit, doit aussi passer par celle qui vont la construire. Donc oui je trouve qu\u2019il faut aller chercher tous les astuces qui permettent d\u2019abord de cr\u00e9er l\u2019emploi local. Nous avons le m\u00eame probl\u00e8me en France. On dit que les grands PPP, c\u2019est pour les grandes entreprises, les petits PPP pour les petites entreprises. On r\u00e2le parce que les trois grands majors ont les plus grands march\u00e9s. &nbsp;Mais au-dessous d\u2019un milliard d\u2019Euros, il n\u2019y a pas beaucoup d\u2019entreprises qui peuvent r\u00e9pondre. J\u2019ai entendu notre ami dire &nbsp;pourquoi, on n\u2019aiderait pas sur des tr\u00e8s grands chantiers les entreprises \u00e0 d\u00e9marrer. Je crois que ces prises de risques existent peu dans la fonction publique d\u2019Etat. Apr\u00e8s imaginer sur des plus petits chantiers, on accompagne des entreprises \u00e0 grandir gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 des PPP. Mais derri\u00e8re, il peut y avoir le contraire aussi. Il peut y avoir des entreprises internationales qui ont rachet\u00e9 une bo\u00eete dont les capitaux sont \u00e9trangers et o\u00f9, l\u2019ensemble des salari\u00e9s sauf \u00e9ventuellement le pr\u00e9sident, sont s\u00e9n\u00e9galais. L\u2019objectif d\u2019abord est d\u2019essayer de trouver des infrastructures qui vont faire travailler les emplois locaux et les populations locales.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Grand sp\u00e9cialiste des PPP, Marc Teyssier D\u2019Orfeuil est le Pr\u00e9sident de COMPUBLICS en&nbsp; France. 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